Episode #37

Credit Photo Courtesy of:
Brian Poon

LAUREN HEBERT JOHANNA COGEN

About this Episode

In fall of 2021, Access Fund started the new Climber Steward program in Indian Creek. On this month’s podcast, Peter sits down with Lauren Hebert and Johanna Cogen, the inaugural Climber Stewards. They posted up in the Creek during peak season this fall to share information and resources on how to minimize impact and enjoy climbing resources responsibly—especially important in the fragile desert ecosystem.

With the lure of free coffee, Lauren and Johanna engaged with hundreds of new and seasoned Indian Creek climbers alike to educate them on pressing issues specific to Indian Creek such as dispersed camping, human and dog waste, and respecting sensitive cultural resources. Tune in to hear their reflections on the first season of the Climber Steward program and what kind of impact it will have on climbers and other visitors.

5:52- Lauren and Johanna’s intros
10:38- The Climber Steward position
17:25- Prior conservation and education experience
21:22- Indian Creek stakeholders
23:19- Influence of native values
26:52- Climbers’ relationship with ranchers
29:34- Conversations with the Climber Stewards
36:19- Jeopardy!
39:16- Stewardship season and locations
42:21- Data collection as a goal for the future
43:57- Crag chats
46:22- Other Climber Steward responsibilities
49:16- Personal experiences in Indian Creek
53:45- Reflections on the first Climber Steward season
57:07- Lauren and Johanna’s definition of advocacy

Climber Steward program: https://www.accessfund.org/news-and-events/news/access-fund-to-deploy-climber-stewards-at-indian-creek

Access Fund’s Vertical Times: https://www.accessfund.org/news-and-events/newsletter