Climbing is more than the routes we climb—it’s the stories, art, community, and experiences that shape its culture.

In this episode of Policy Rx, The Rock Doc sits down with Luke Mehall, publisher of The Climbing Zine and host of the Dirtbag State of Mind podcast, to talk about the intersection of climbing, art, and advocacy—from the importance of authentic storytelling and creating space for the next generation to how Luke’s own perspective has evolved over a lifetime of climbing.

Plus, hear why Luke sees stewardship as one of the most tangible ways climbers can make a positive impact—and how replacing bolts, building trails, and passing knowledge on to younger climbers are just as much a part of climbing culture as the climbing itself.